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't thinking about the potential of the good guys to find out what happened. your thoughts first, jim? >> well, you're exactly right. it's like behind you in these big cases, there's a silent worrying fan that starts and that state department agents across the globe, cia stations, homeland security, where governor ridge was in charge of, they all start worrying around and they're all supporting you with their databases and their information. in the command post, we have computerized lead tracking. atf and fbi developed those systems in the early '90s and we put them to work with great force. i mean, we track every lead. computerized lead tracking so we can capture that information and control the leads. and this digital age that's come upon us, chris, when i started as a policeman, we had rotary phones. i mean, you're talking about wanted posters. we had to go hand them out. >> i know. >> so now -- this digital phone technology, this surveillance cameras. remember the london train bombings? the cct cameras in greater london. the metropolitan police were able to capture the suicide bombers on t
know, it's logical to think that this 19-year-old may have been hit, too. so i agree with jim, he could have crawled under some place and laying there bleeding out. he could be holding a gun to someone's head and they wouldn't have answered the door. there's a lot of scenarios. the best case scenario is that we would have found him holed up someplace in that 20-block area. realize, not only did they have s.w.a.t. agents, everybody else, bomb dogs out there, they had search dogs out there, they had a lot of resources and this guy, 19 years old, on the run and in an environment he doesn't know with just the shoes on his feet maybe has been able to elude. now, that's probably very lucky on his part but law enforcement sitting there right now with their fingers crossed hoping he's still in the area because they may not know where to look next, al. >> that's my point, james. lucky for him maybe. hopefully he doesn't have that luck. but scary for others. i mean, i'm an early riser. i wake up early this morning, 5:00 a.m., in the middle of the night both of them have been caught, one's dead, t
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